September 8, 1985 Atlanta Braves at St. Louis Cardinals Box Score and Play by Play

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CAL 7
@BAL 4
(11) BOS 8
CLE 1 SEA 6
@DET 2 KCR 13
MIL 11
(11) NYY 9
OAK 6 CHW 7
@TEX 6 TOR 10
MIN 9 CIN 5
@CHC 5 NYM 4
@LAD 3
(14) PHI 9
@SDP 7 MON 9
@SFG 6
(10) ATL 7
@STL 3

Standings at end of play this day

Busch Stadium, Attendance: 24,930

Sunday, September 8, 1985
Time of Game: 2:48

Braves

58-76

Won 2

5th, 20½ GB

                1  2  3   4  5  6   7  8  9    R  H  E
                -  -  -   -  -  -   -  -  -    -  -  -
Braves          0  0  0   0  1  0   3  3  0    7  8  0
Cardinals       0  0  0   1  1  0   0  1  0    3  7  0

W: J Johnson (4-0), L: B Forsch (6-6)

Cardinals

82-52

Lost 2

1st

BATTING

Atlanta Braves               AB   R   H RBI   BB  SO    BA   OPS  Pit   PO   A  Details
M Thompson LF                 4   0   0   0    0   1  .314  .716    0    0   0   
  J Dedmon P                  0   0   0   0    0   0  .111  .311         0   1   
  P Runge PH                  0   0   0   0    1   0  .176  .568    0    0   0   
  B Sutter P                  0   0   0   0    0   0  .000  .000         1   0   
R Ramirez SS                  5   0   0   0    0   1  .258  .623    0    1   2   GDP
D Murphy CF                   4   1   1   0    1   0  .287  .921    0    5   0   2B
G Perry 1B                    3   0   1   0    0   0  .208  .519    0    5   1   
  T Harper LF                 1   1   1   0    0   0  .255  .727    0    0   0   
C Washington RF               4   1   1   1    0   0  .277  .792    0    3   0   
K Oberkfell 3B                3   1   0   0    1   1  .285  .747    0    1   1   
G Hubbard 2B                  3   2   1   0    0   0  .226  .625    0    1   3   2B,HBP
B Benedict C                  2   0   0   0    0   0  .229  .576    0    4   0   
  C Chambliss PH              0   0   0   0    1   0  .226  .626    0    0   0   IW
  A Thomas PR                 0   1   0   0    0   0                     0   0   
  L Owen C                    1   0   1   2    0   0  .250  .621    0    0   0   
J Johnson P                   1   0   1   1    1   0  .059  .318    0    1   0   2B
  B Horner PH-1B              2   0   1   3    0   0  .285  .879    0    5   1   3B
Totals                       33   7   8   7    5   3                    27   9

BATTING

2B: D Murphy (26, off B Forsch); J Johnson (1, off B Forsch); G Hubbard (17, off B Forsch).

3B: B Horner (3, off T Worrell).

IBB: C Chambliss (3, by T Worrell).

HBP: G Hubbard (2, by B Forsch).

TB: B Horner 3; D Murphy 2; J Johnson 2; G Hubbard 2; L Owen; C Washington; G Perry; T Harper.

GIDP: R Ramirez (19).

RBI: B Horner 3 (80); L Owen 2 (9); C Washington (32); J Johnson (2).

2-out RBI: L Owen 2; J Johnson.

Team LOB: 5.

With RISP: 4 for 11.

FIELDING

DP: 1. R Ramirez-B Horner.

St. Louis Cardinals          AB   R   H RBI   BB  SO    BA   OPS  Pit   PO   A  Details
V Coleman LF                  4   0   1   0    0   1  .273  .668    0    2   0   
W McGee CF                    4   0   0   0    0   0  .362  .912    0    3   0   GDP
T Herr 2B                     4   0   2   1    0   0  .317  .806    0    2   6   SB
D Porter C                    3   1   1   1    1   0  .208  .745    0    3   0   HR,SB
A Van Slyke RF                4   0   0   0    0   0  .259  .797    0    2   0   
T Pendleton 3B                4   0   0   0    0   1  .226  .556    0    0   2   
M Jorgensen 1B                3   0   0   0    0   2  .241  .697    0   11   0   
  B Campbell P                0   0   0   0    0   0  .400 1.025         0   0   
  D Bair P                    0   0   0   0    0   0                     0   0   
  S Braun PH                  1   0   0   0    0   0  .222  .680    0    0   0   
O Smith SS                    3   1   1   0    0   0  .265  .675    0    2   2   
B Forsch P                    2   0   1   1    0   0  .323  .839    0    0   0   3B
  T Worrell P                 0   0   0   0    0   0                     0   0   
  K Dayley P                  0   0   0   0    0   0  .250  .500         0   0   
  C Cedeno 1B                 1   1   1   0    0   0  .262  .706    0    2   0   
Totals                       33   3   7   3    1   4                    27  10

BATTING

3B: B Forsch (1, off J Johnson).

HR: D Porter (9, off J Johnson; 4th inn, 0 on, 2 outs).

TB: D Porter 4; B Forsch 3; T Herr 2; O Smith; C Cedeno; V Coleman.

GIDP: W McGee (3).

RBI: B Forsch (3); D Porter (30); T Herr (90).

2-out RBI: D Porter; T Herr; B Forsch.

Team LOB: 4.

With RISP: 1 for 5.

FIELDING

DP: 2. T Pendleton-T Herr-C Cedeno; O Smith-M Jorgensen.

BASERUNNING

SB: D Porter (3, 2nd base off J Johnson/B Benedict); T Herr (29, 2nd base off J Dedmon/L Owen).

PITCHING

Atlanta Braves                IP     H   R  ER   BB  SO  HR    ERA   BF  Pit-Str  Ct·Sw·Lk   GB·FB·LD· ?   GmSc  IR-IS   LevI    WPA
J Johnson, W (4-0)             6     4   2   2    1   4   1   2.17   23     -       ·  ·      6· 8· 0· 4     59    -     0.79  -0.01
J Dedmon, H (9)                2     3   1   1    0   0   0   3.90    8     -       ·  ·      3· 2· 0· 3          0-0    0.78   0.08
B Sutter                       1     0   0   0    0   0   0   3.95    3     -       ·  ·      3· 0· 0· 0          0-0    0.27   0.01
Totals                         9     7   3   3    1   4   1          34     -       ·  ·     12·10· 0· 7           -

St. Louis Cardinals           IP     H   R  ER   BB  SO  HR    ERA   BF  Pit-Str  Ct·Sw·Lk   GB·FB·LD· ?   GmSc  IR-IS   LevI    WPA
B Forsch, L (6-6)              6.1   4   3   3    2   0   0   4.28   25     -       ·  ·      9· 9· 0· 4     51    -     1.11   0.12
T Worrell, BS (2)              0.2   2   3   3    2   2   0   5.68    6     -       ·  ·      0· 0· 0· 2          2-2    2.07  -0.50
K Dayley                       0.1   1   1   1    0   1   0   2.62    2     -       ·  ·      0· 0· 0· 1          2-1    0.57  -0.01
B Campbell                     0.2   1   0   0    0   0   0   3.58    3     -       ·  ·      0· 2· 0· 1          2-2    0.42  -0.04
D Bair                         1     0   0   0    1   0   0   6.12    3     -       ·  ·      1· 1· 0· 0          0-0    0.07   0.00
Totals                         9     8   7   7    5   3   0          39     -       ·  ·     10·12· 0· 8          6-5

T Worrell faced 2 batters in the 8th inning.

Balks: None.

WP: T Worrell (1).

IBB: T Worrell (2; C Chambliss).

HBP: B Forsch (2; G Hubbard).

OTHER

Umpires: HP - Frank Pulli, 1B - Eric Gregg, 2B - Joe West, 3B - Doug Harvey.

Time of Game: 2:48.

Attendance: 24,930.

Field Condition: Unknown.

Weather: Unknown.

LINEUPS

   Atlanta Braves                St. Louis Cardinals                  
1. M Thompson           LF    1. V Coleman            LF 
2. R Ramirez            SS    2. W McGee              CF 
3. D Murphy             CF    3. T Herr               2B 
4. G Perry              1B    4. D Porter             C  
5. C Washington         RF    5. A Van Slyke          RF 
6. K Oberkfell          3B    6. T Pendleton          3B 
7. G Hubbard            2B    7. M Jorgensen          1B 
8. B Benedict           C     8. O Smith              SS 
9. J Johnson            P     9. B Forsch             P

TOP 5 PLAYS (wpa explanation)

   Inn Out Score RoB  Pt wWPA  wWE  Batter          Pitcher         Play Detail
  +---+---+-----+---+---+----+----++---------------+---------------+--------------------------------------------------------------+
   t 7   1  2-1  123      38%  87% B Horner        T Worrell       Triple; Oberkfell Scores; Hubbard Scores; Thomas Scores
   b 5   2  1-1  1--     -18%  29% B Forsch        J Johnson       Triple; Smith Scores
   t 5   2  1-0  -2-      15%  48% J Johnson       B Forsch        Double; Hubbard Scores
   b 4   2  0-0  ---     -15%  34% D Porter        J Johnson       Home Run
   t 7   1  2-1  12-      10%  47% C Chambliss     T Worrell       Wild Pitch; Oberkfell to 3B; Hubbard to 2B

PLAY BY PLAY (explanation)

Top of the 1st, Braves Batting, Tied 0-0, Bob Forsch facing 1-2-3
  Scr/Out RoB  Pt  wWE  Batter          Play Detail
  +------+---+---+----++---------------+--------------------------------------------------------------+
   O      ---      48%  M Thompson      Groundout: 2B-1B
   O      ---      46%  R Ramirez       Foul Flyball: 1B
          ---      49%  D Murphy        Double
   O      -2-      45%  G Perry         Groundout: SS-1B
                  0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Braves 0, Cardinals 0.

Bottom of the 1st, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Joe Johnson facing 1-2-3
   O      ---      48%  V Coleman       Strikeout
   O      ---      49%  W McGee         Flyball: CF
          ---      48%  T Herr          Single
   O      1--      50%  D Porter        Foul Flyball: 3B
                  0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Braves 0, Cardinals 0.

Top of the 2nd, Braves Batting, Tied 0-0, Bob Forsch facing 5-6-7
   O      ---      48%  C Washington    Flyball: LF
   O      ---      46%  K Oberkfell     Groundout: 1B unassisted
   O      ---      45%  G Hubbard       Groundout: 2B-1B
                  0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Braves 0, Cardinals 0.

Bottom of the 2nd, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Joe Johnson facing 5-6-7
   O      ---      47%  A Van Slyke     Flyball: CF
   O      ---      49%  T Pendleton     Groundout: SS-1B
   O      ---      50%  M Jorgensen     Strikeout
                  0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Braves 0, Cardinals 0.

Top of the 3rd, Braves Batting, Tied 0-0, Bob Forsch facing 8-9-1
   O      ---      48%  B Benedict      Groundout: 3B-1B
          ---      50%  J Johnson       Walk
   O      1--      47%  M Thompson      Flyball: CF
   O      1--      45%  R Ramirez       Flyball: LF
                  0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Braves 0, Cardinals 0.

Bottom of the 3rd, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Joe Johnson facing 8-9-1
   O      ---      47%  O Smith         Flyball: CF
   O      ---      49%  B Forsch        Groundout: 3B-1B
   O      ---      50%  V Coleman       Flyball: CF
                  0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Braves 0, Cardinals 0.

Top of the 4th, Braves Batting, Tied 0-0, Bob Forsch facing 3-4-5
   O      ---      47%  D Murphy        Groundout: 2B-1B
          ---      50%  G Perry         Single
   OO     1--      44%  C Washington    Double Play: Flyball: SS-1B
                  0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Braves 0, Cardinals 0.

Bottom of the 4th, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Joe Johnson facing 2-3-4
   O      ---      47%  W McGee         Flyball: RF
   O      ---      49%  T Herr          Flyball: 2B
   R      ---      34%  D Porter        Home Run
   O      ---      35%  A Van Slyke     Flyball: RF
                  1 run, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Braves 0, Cardinals 1.

Top of the 5th, Braves Batting, Behind 0-1, Bob Forsch facing 6-7-8
   O      ---      32%  K Oberkfell     Flyball: CF
          ---      38%  G Hubbard       Double
   O      -2-      33%  B Benedict      Flyball: SS
   R      -2-      48%  J Johnson       Double; Hubbard Scores
   O      -2-      44%  M Thompson      Groundout: 1B unassisted
                  1 run, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Braves 1, Cardinals 1.

Bottom of the 5th, Cardinals Batting, Tied 1-1, Joe Johnson facing 6-7-8
   O      ---      47%  T Pendleton     Strikeout
   O      ---      49%  M Jorgensen     Strikeout
          ---      47%  O Smith         Single
   R      1--      29%  B Forsch        Triple; Smith Scores
   O      --3      33%  V Coleman       Groundout: 2B-1B
                  1 run, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Braves 1, Cardinals 2.

Top of the 6th, Braves Batting, Behind 1-2, Bob Forsch facing 2-3-4
   O      ---      29%  R Ramirez       Groundout: 2B-1B
   O      ---      27%  D Murphy        Flyball: RF
   O      ---      25%  G Perry         Groundout: 2B-1B
                  0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Braves 1, Cardinals 2.

Bottom of the 6th, Cardinals Batting, Ahead 2-1, Joe Johnson facing 2-3-4
   O      ---      27%  W McGee         Groundout: 2B-1B
   O      ---      28%  T Herr          Groundout: 2B-1B
          ---      27%  D Porter        Walk
          1--      26%  A Van Slyke     Porter Steals 2B
   O      -2-      29%  " "             Groundout: 1B-P
                  0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Braves 1, Cardinals 2.

Top of the 7th, Braves Batting, Behind 1-2, Bob Forsch facing 5-6-7
   O      ---      25%  C Washington    Flyball: CF
          ---      30%  K Oberkfell     Walk
          1--      37%  G Hubbard       Hit By Pitch; Oberkfell to 2B
                  Todd Worrell replaces Bob Forsch pitching and batting 9th; Chris Chambliss pinch hits for Bruce Benedict batting 8th
          12-      47%  C Chambliss     Wild Pitch; Oberkfell to 3B; Hubbard to 2B
          -23      49%  " "             Intentional Walk
                  Bob Horner pinch hits for Joe Johnson batting 9th; Andres Thomas pinch runs for Chris Chambliss batting 8th
   RRR    123      87%  B Horner        Triple; Oberkfell Scores; Hubbard Scores; Thomas Scores
   O      --3      83%  M Thompson      Strikeout
   O      --3      80%  R Ramirez       Strikeout
                  3 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Braves 4, Cardinals 2.

Bottom of the 7th, Cardinals Batting, Behind 2-4, Jeff Dedmon facing 6-7-8
                  Jeff Dedmon replaces Milt Thompson pitching and batting 1st; Larry Owen replaces Andres Thomas playing C batting 8th; Bob Horner moves to 1B; Terry Harper replaces Gerald Perry playing LF batting 4th
   O      ---      84%  T Pendleton     Flyball: RF
   O      ---      86%  M Jorgensen     Groundout: P-1B
   O      ---      88%  O Smith         Groundout: 1B unassisted
                  0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Braves 4, Cardinals 2.

Top of the 8th, Braves Batting, Ahead 4-2, Todd Worrell facing 3-4-5
          ---      89%  D Murphy        Walk
          1--      94%  T Harper        Single; Murphy to 3B
                  Ken Dayley replaces Todd Worrell pitching and batting 9th
   R      1-3      96%  C Washington    Single; Murphy Scores; Harper to 2B
   O      12-      95%  K Oberkfell     Strikeout
                  Bill Campbell replaces Mike Jorgensen pitching and batting 7th; Cesar Cedeno replaces Ken Dayley playing 1B batting 9th
   O      12-      94%  G Hubbard       Flyball: RF
   RR     12-      98%  L Owen          Single; Harper Scores; Washington Scores
   O      1--      98%  B Horner        Flyball: 2B
                  3 runs, 3 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Braves 7, Cardinals 2.

Bottom of the 8th, Cardinals Batting, Behind 2-7, Jeff Dedmon facing 9-1-2
          ---      97%  C Cedeno        Single
          1--      94%  V Coleman       Single; Cedeno to 2B
   OO     12-      99%  W McGee         Ground Ball Double Play: SS-1B; Cedeno to 3B
   R      --3      98%  T Herr          Single; Cedeno Scores
          1--      98%  D Porter        Herr Steals 2B
   O      -2-      99%  " "             Flyball: CF
                  1 run, 3 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Braves 7, Cardinals 3.

Top of the 9th, Braves Batting, Ahead 7-3, Doug Bair facing 1-2-3
                  Doug Bair replaces Bill Campbell pitching and batting 7th; Paul Runge pinch hits for Jeff Dedmon batting 1st
          ---      99%  P Runge         Walk
   OO     1--      99%  R Ramirez       Ground Ball Double Play: 3B-2B-1B
   O      ---      98%  D Murphy        Foul Flyball: 1B
                  0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Braves 7, Cardinals 3.

Bottom of the 9th, Cardinals Batting, Behind 3-7, Bruce Sutter facing 5-6-7
                  Bruce Sutter replaces Paul Runge pitching and batting 1st
   O      ---      99%  A Van Slyke     Groundout: 1B unassisted
   O      ---     100%  T Pendleton     Groundout: 1B-P
                  Steve Braun pinch hits for Doug Bair batting 7th
   O      ---     100%  S Braun         Groundout: 1B unassisted
        0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Braves 7, Cardinals 3.

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